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 Last replied to on Wed Mar 14, 2007 08:48:38
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Because my busy time last time and my planned new sites, it seems i have not much time for editing pages.
Thus i'm searching for members who can edit pages good, and have Photoshop on the computer. Because the raws are in PSD.
Can you keep the quality good and same as my previous edited chapters? Then you can help me with editing pages.
For exchange pages, i make new webspace for it on my server, so you can download and upload the pages. (You may not use space for another things than only pages itself for DummyScan / DummySub projects.)
That makes more easier for us.
Your job:
- cleaning pages (on full resolution)
- put texts on the pages (first resize to 1200 pix height)
- and redrawing balloons is also possible if you cannot fit the text in the balloon (same at 1200 pix height)
- After doing the pages, you can give them back to me.
I check the pages for errors, then i export them to png files.
Your name is credited as editor in the first page.
I know some members do it in Gimp, but Photoshop is recommended because i have no Gimp (no Linux) here.
Can you do it?
(Only i do the scanning pages)
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Posted at Sun May 07, 2006 13:23:45
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I need some editors which can work with Photoshop.
If you can clean the pages good enough, then you may ask me for the job.
For cleaning pages, please check the pages in latest chapters and try it for yourself.
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Posted at Tue Jun 13, 2006 00:03:15
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I received some replies from people who want help me with editing pages. But after my reply to them, there is no more reaction. Are they already given up?
I can do the edits, but it's not easy and it uses a lot time.
And i have many plans for new websites (i want build them).
I know there are many people who want see edited pages and also new chapters. I want it too. Translators have done the great work! Only the graphic part of project, cleaning, scanning and editing pages, that is another work. Until now, i do all the graphic part. Scanning and editing pages are lesser time consuming, but cleaning is more time consuming. And i work with Photoshop as main program. Shadows and dusts must be removed.
In fact, i'm searching for somebody who can take over the cleaning part from me. Then the releasing of the chapters is more faster than before.
Oh yes, i have now set up some automatic routines in Photoshop to make the edits quicker. I use quickmask/level many times in cleaning process of the pages. It works, but it just costs some time. 
I shall see when i can further with editing. But it's now very hot outside and i played WoW... Yes, i'm sweating already a bit. When outside is cooled down, i try something.
Thank you.
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Posted at Thu Jun 15, 2006 19:16:50
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I'd offer to help, but there are two problems. First, I have no prior experience, so I don't really know what to do and would need instruction and practice. Second, I don't have Photoshop and I don't think it runs on my OS.
Is there anywhere you could recruit editors?
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Posted at Wed Jul 12, 2006 00:18:21
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uhm gimp is available for win and MacOS.
No offer here, but should I find any free time I try out to help as I got Gimp and PS both on my pc, but have no previous expirience with this stuff, but currently it looks very grim.
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Posted at Wed Jul 12, 2006 00:33:42
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In fact, i need some cleaners for the pages. I can put texts without much time, but cleaning is more work and time and i have not much time for it.
I have now one person who helps me. But i need one more with photoshop experience and pages cleaning.
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Posted at Sun Jul 16, 2006 23:13:59
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I would like to offer some help with cleaning.
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Posted at Tue Jul 25, 2006 13:33:23
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If there are still people who want help me with cleaning, please reply here.
I have one cleaner, but he is little busy.
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Posted at Tue Jul 25, 2006 22:19:44
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can't say i actually have the experience in this matter, have worked with photoshop a few years though (not that i have improved that much during my years), just started a small project where i translate english translated manga to swedish, haven't gotten that far with the project yet... unofficially released 3 ch of blame. if it's not too time consuming i'd like to apply (i work pretty much and hard), i can send the little work i've done so you can have a peek whether or not i'm worthy. (cleaning jap raws mainly then using the eng trans as a sort of template/guide, since most of it, if not all, balloons have some amount of gray in it i clean it with full white as good as possible)... hm, forgot where i was, anyways my mail is i2un3@hotmail.com... btw, don't you have a irc channel somewhere? been meaning to find it but seems there exist none.
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Posted at Sun Jul 30, 2006 23:47:25
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Ok, so far i have 2 cleaners. And 3rd is still in discussion. Good, i can share the tasks between the cleaners. When text setting is needed, i talk with them.
Thank you very much, i'm happy with the help. 
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Posted at Wed Aug 02, 2006 22:39:19
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Ok, 3rd cleaner is added, we shall see how is going next time 
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Posted at Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:06:14
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I told you already on MSN, I'm available for text editing and second-pass cleaning (white/black spots and hair removal and the like). I'm quite good with The Gimp.
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Posted at Sun Aug 06, 2006 19:27:49
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I told you already on MSN, I'm available for text editing and second-pass cleaning (white/black spots and hair removal and the like). I'm quite good with The Gimp. |
That is good, the problem is only i'm not sure you can give back in PSD format to me.
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Posted at Tue Aug 08, 2006 01:15:40
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That is good, the problem is only i'm not sure you can give back in PSD format to me. |
actually, I can, altough I can't guarantee perfect compatibility. Why do you need it anyway? since I don't think you're using multiple layers or similar stuff, just save them in PNG.
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Posted at Wed Aug 09, 2006 13:35:10
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It's only to keep it uncompressed and editble.
With PSD, i put text layers inside to keep it editble, when some texts are not good, so version 2 is possible in short time.
And clean / edit forgotten areas is possible without quality loss. And when i must resize balloons, i use new layer for new balloon.
And then, when texts are placed, i export it to web, to PNG format, and then optimize it with ADVPNG more. That is enough for distribution, right?
I send you the ftp access, so you can check it for yourself.
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Posted at Fri Aug 11, 2006 00:03:28
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ok, I'm starting work.
Just a question, though: how do we avoid that two editors work on the same file contemporaneously?
I'm uploading .txt placeholders on the files that I'm working on in the /cleaned directory, so that nobody else starts working on them. Could the others do the same?
Plus, I'm not sure about the use of /analyse: we upload to cleaned, you look at them, and if they aren't right you move them to /analyse so that we can work on them further? Did I understand correctly?
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Posted at Fri Aug 11, 2006 00:56:58
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I've finished my first page with The Gimp.
Please make sure as soon as possible that there aren't any problems opening it. At the moment, the only quirk is that the files I save are almost twice as bigger than the originals  shouldn't be a problem though.
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Posted at Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:17:15
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Yes, indeed twice as bigger. But you have still many light grayed areas. You have a LCD monitor or a CRT monitor? With CRT monitor, it's indeed hard to see, but LCD has some tricks to see it more easy. Or if you have Photoshop, the Equalize function helps with detecting lightgray areas. It works very well. But with Gimp, there must something as a trick to darken the very lightgray a bit more.
If PSD is twice bigger, then you may use another formats, for example higher quality PNG (256 graylevels) or TIFF or GIF (256 graylevels). The goal is to keep the quality loss to almost 0%.
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Just a question, though: how do we avoid that two editors work on the same file contemporaneously?
I'm uploading .txt placeholders on the files that I'm working on in the /cleaned directory, so that nobody else starts working on them. Could the others do the same? |
Putting .txt file is good idea. Use filename.txt and put here your name inside, to make another know that you're busy with the file. Completed files may have [nickname] behind the filename, to see who did it.
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Plus, I'm not sure about the use of /analyse: we upload to cleaned, you look at them, and if they aren't right you move them to /analyse so that we can work on them further? Did I understand correctly? |
That is normally my own place. I check the images here and when is too much wrong, i place my marks there and upload to /analyse/ (not moving, just new file). The cleaner can download it and check the marks, so he can see what i mean and try correct it better with file in /cleaned/. It's just part of learning. You don't need to use files in /analyse/. When the pages are good cleaned, i remove /analyse/ files. When there are still areas which cleaner is not sure, then post .txt file near the uploaded cleaned page with troubles inside in /cleaned/, then i look for it and compare it with my manga.
It's also possible that i put .txt file with explains in /analyse/ instead of PSD file with marks. Then you may add more words to .txt file if you want. I look at date and time of the file if it's changed or not.
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Posted at Mon Aug 14, 2006 13:43:46
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But you have still many light grayed areas. |
Wait, are you saying you can see them without applying the equalize filter?
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You have a LCD monitor or a CRT monitor? |
CRT 
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But with Gimp, there must something as a trick to darken the very lightgray a bit more. |
yeah, it's called "Curves".
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If PSD is twice bigger, then you may use another formats, for example higher quality PNG (256 graylevels) or TIFF or GIF (256 graylevels). The goal is to keep the quality loss to almost 0%. |
All the formats you enumerated have 0 quality loss ;)
Let's avoid GIF however.
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Posted at Mon Aug 14, 2006 14:51:06
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I've uploaded a second version. Now it should be ok.
Still, I can't notice the differences between the first and the second version without applying filters (and my 19'' monitor isn't that bad!)
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Posted at Mon Aug 14, 2006 19:17:01
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But you have still many light grayed areas.
Wait, are you saying you can see them without applying the equalize filter? |
Equalize is a filter in Photoshop. I use Equalize as a indicator to make very light grayed area better visible. I don't use it for editing, but only for checking cleaning progress. Gimp hasn't such filter, thus you need another tricks for it. Because Equalize works quickly without many settings, i can do it very quickly.
On my CRT monitor, i cannot see much without using Equalize filter.
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